tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-69302585515757300452024-03-12T23:05:52.918-04:00Men at HeartMatt Gorrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10526021761516241630noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-48248411460010215662015-05-04T17:38:00.000-04:002015-05-04T17:38:04.620-04:00Glory - Are You Comfortable?<div class="MsoNormal">
I find it interesting that we have a general discomfort when
we encounter glory and that we often respond by attempting to control it. One
way to define glory is to say that it is the manifestation of the presence or
nature of God, which is naturally displayed in countless ways through the
things he has made. But no matter how beautiful and awesome these things appear,
there is something in them (or more accurately in us) that makes us want to
turn away or even gain control over them in some way. Think of the beauty of
nature, a sunrise, a waterfall, a mountain and how we often respond to seeing
such things. Even though they demand our complete attention we are not content with
submitting to them in that way. No, we have to turn from them, distract ourselves,
or try to capture them for ourselves by taking a picture. Or think of a wedding
– being confronted by the beauty and glory of two people committing to each
other, of two souls becoming one. Do we not put a great many distractions
around it to enable us to turn away, to keep us busy with details? There is the
venue, the flowers, the music, the food, the people, the decorations – a
seemingly endless list of things to hold our attention so we do not have to
confront the glory shining through the thing itself. We will even afterward
judge the wedding based off those peripheral details. What I am trying to get across is that it appears that there are two options for us when we encounter glory, we can simply enjoy it, or we can turn away from it by ignoring the claim it is making on us, and it seems that for whatever reason, we prefer the latter.</div>
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And Jesus was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with him. And Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good that we are here. If you wish, I will make three tents here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.” When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and were terrified. But Jesus came and touched them, saying, “Rise, and have no fear.” And when they lifted up their eyes, they saw no one but Jesus only. -Matthew 17 </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Look at this passage; is this not what Peter is doing? Is he not trying to distract himself from the glorious being in front of him? Is he not trying to regain the upper hand in some way, to obtain control? How uncomfortable it is to behold glory – it makes us feel our inadequacies, makes us confront our smallnes</span>s. And if we feel that discomfort with the glory we see
in nature and other humans how much more will we feel it when we come face to
face with the one who created those things, who upholds those things, who
sustains and wills on those things by his great power.</div>
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The reality of the situation is that he has given us a way
to see his glory, at least in part. For what is the great glory of God if not
that though no man can comprehend him, he comes down to us and reveals himself
to us, leaving a record behind so that all could see him. There are many ways
you can turn away, trying to explain away what happened, questioning the
legitimacy of the record, degrading the moral nature of Jesus, or simply
ignoring the things he said while associating yourself with Christianity. It is
what, as humans we are prone to do. But make no mistake that each of these is
born out of a desire to remain in control, to remain above the God-Man in some
respect. There are only two options when encountering Jesus, we must either
completely and unashamedly worship him as Lord, or turn away from him. There is
no middle ground here. And while this worship will include more than this, it
at least involves a person giving up trying to control his own life and
allowing Jesus to make him into the being He would have him be. To start this
we must trust him, take on his worldview, and obey him. </div>
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Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-79942542492171705812014-04-19T17:20:00.000-04:002014-04-19T17:20:29.706-04:00Christianity is confusingChristianity is confusing. If you haven't bought into Christianity, you might say this is obvious to you—so many things about it seem to defy human reasoning. But let’s put aside all of the secondary things that trouble you and get to the heart of the matter.<br />
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<b>Christian judgment seems backwards</b><br />
We live in a world in which you are judged and accepted based on performance. Are you beautiful? Kind? Are you talented? Hard-working? Honest? Smart? Creative? Rich? Loving? Someone known for saying and doing the right thing? In our society, it doesn’t matter which route you take to justify your existence. Just do what makes you feel good and everyone should accept you if you’ve done the best you can with what you have, right? But here is what Christianity says:<br />
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For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:6-8</blockquote>
Christ died... for the <i>ungodly</i>...??? Not the talented, nor the beautiful, not the smart, hard-working, rich, or creative, but the ungodly? Let me get this straight. Christianity says that God, an omniscient, infinitely powerful and righteous being of infinite worth, came into our little world, lived a perfect life, and then voluntarily gave up his life… not for the winners, but for the <i>losers</i>? The failures? The bad guys? I could go on, but I think the point is clear—why would anyone sign up for that?<br />
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As my old high school history teacher, Jim Owen put it, “They take everybody.”<br />
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<b>How would judgment look in your case?</b> <br />
Now, you might be thinking to yourself: “I get it. Some people need this sort of thing. But not me—I'm doing just fine.”
But let me ask you to do a thought experiment (props to Francis Schaeffer for this illustration):<br />
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Consider all of the things you say everyone should do and all of the things you say no one should do. Let’s not talk about the standards of the bible or any major world religion. Just think about the things you believe. Now, let’s say there is an invisible recorder around your neck. It only records what you say about how people ought to live, as well as what you actually think, say, and do, both in public and private, and during your entire life.<br />
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Fast forward to “judgment day.” Let’s say there is a God, and your "case number" is called. God says, "I will judge you only on the basis of your own words.” Then God removes that recorder from your neck and hits the play button. How would you do?<br />
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Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God?
Rom. 2:1-3</blockquote>
<b>My Case</b><br />
I don’t know about you, but I’ll take the route that tells me the truth about myself and yet, gives me hope outside of myself. I'll take the route that prevents me from feeling better than anyone else when I know I'm no better. I'll put God's grace up against anything else—career, money, power, moralism, intelligence, romance—just give me grace.<br />
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The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.” - Acts 17:30-31 </blockquote>
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Still confused? Here's a suggestion. Go to a church where the gospel is preached. Find a church where the people don't just say, "God hates sin," but go to a place where people can say, "...while <i>we </i>were still sinners, Christ died for <i>us</i>." Talk to those people. Not sure where to look? Here's my shameless plug: if you're near Columbus on Easter, come and check out our church:<br />
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Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-78870924006449248812014-04-02T18:31:00.002-04:002014-04-02T18:31:16.172-04:00Our Desperate Need for God<div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
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<span style="font-family: Times, "Times New Roman", serif;">These are the words of Paul the apostle, speaking to the men of Athens who were quite religious, as they had objects of worship to many different gods. However, it appears that they were aware that they were still missing something on some level even though they could never quite find out what exactly it was. Paul is explaining to them that what they are missing is that the one God who created the world is the same God who gives men everything they have and is the One who is "not far from any of them." Today I want to look at the implications of that statement because if Paul is correct, it means that God is so much more then what people often think of him. It means that he is more than a being who sits back and watches his creation. It means that he is more than some impersonal force that we must appease to secure our future well being. It means that he is much closer than we might have ever imagined, yea even so much closer than we would dare to think. Because if it is true that we live, move, and exist in Him then it is also true that we need him, oh so desperately need him, even "need him as our body never needed food or air, need him as our soul never hungered after joy, or peace, or pleasure." Need him so desperately that it might just terrify us to see the extent of it.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times, "Times New Roman", serif;">But if that is true, then why don't we feel it? Why do so many of us seem to get along "just fine" without him? I will submit to you that we don't feel it because we have lost our sensitivity to it. We have turned to other things that seem to satisfy our needs, that make us feel safe and secure, that make us feel adequate in ourselves. I am reminded of the story of Dorian Gray. A man who hid his soul in a picture in the attic. A man who appeared perfect, while inwardly he was rotting away. A man who could refrain from facing his true condition by never venturing into the recesses of his house. A man who could be oblivious to his deepest needs because they were buried from his sight. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times, "Times New Roman", serif;">In a way, we can choose to do the same. We can bury our need for God deep within the recesses of our being. We can focus on the superficial aspects of life. We can ignore the need for long enough to come to the conclusion that we don't even have it. But if Paul is correct then that need is there. A need that is not only relegated to some future event but a need that is with us at every moment. A need that supersedes our need for food, for air; a need that consists in existence itself. A need that Jesus Christ came to reveal and lives forever to satisfy. I will submit to you that our purpose is to recognize this need, even to come to know and experience this need - to learn more and more just how desperately we need our God. I would say that this is a taste of what Jesus meant when he said that the greatest commandment is to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength."</span></div>
Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-35947248812772706322014-03-01T17:38:00.001-05:002014-03-01T17:38:08.078-05:00Faith versus reason?Some people say that there are two types of people in this world: people of faith and people of reason; people who live in the spiritual realm and (scientific) people who live in the empirical realm; people who "believe" and people who think and consider evidence. Is it really that simple? Is there really such a divide between people? Take a look at the videos below and decide for yourself.<br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0GUPTjUjY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0GUPTjUjY</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml0FqyFYfrU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml0FqyFYfrU</a><br />
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Nathanael said to him, “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Philip said to him, “Come and see.” - John 1:46</blockquote>
Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-33228879165570126342014-02-05T20:48:00.001-05:002014-02-05T20:51:53.815-05:00The Reality of our Universe<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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</xml><![endif]--><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">“<i>Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.</i>” </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">In the previous post I stressed the importance of thinking
about the serious questions of life and in this post I want to address why.
Jesus answers that question with the words, “the kingdom of heaven is at hand”
or in other words, life under God’s authority is now available to all, it’s
here. Why now? Because who God is and what he wants has now been revealed to us
in the person of Jesus Christ. Jesus tell us to think again about life because
he is introducing a whole new way TO think about life, even a whole new way to
live. A life that he declares is a better life, even the best possible life - a
life that corresponds to the reality of our universe. And what exactly is the
reality of our universe? </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">I will submit that we can see and feel indications of this reality
in life. There are certain things that we hold in the highest regard, things
that we think are the very best. Among these things is a person who is willing
to give everything up for others. Story after story creates “heroes” who deny
themselves on behalf of others and we applaud these stories again and again. Take
for example the character from the movie, <i>Seven
Pounds</i>. The story follows a man who gives up everything, even his own heart
and eyes to seven different people. Watching these events unfold brings most
people to tears. We call it beautiful, heart wrenching, maybe even
life-changing. We want that character to be real, we want him to be our dad,
our brother, and maybe even hope to become like him ourselves. We have
something in us telling us that that is how life ought to be lived, that is how
people ought to behave, that must be the truest way TO live, that should be the
reality of our world…. why? I will submit to you that we feel and think this
way because that IS the reality of our universe. We live in a universe created
and maintained by an all-powerful, omnipresent God who is exactly that kind of
person, who dies as much as a God can die to bring life to the creatures that
he has made. We see it as is the true life because it is the real life.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Either life is a terrible cruel joke, a meaningless
existence which only dreams of something higher, a container of the worst kind
of empty promises OR it is a gift from our Creator, the perfect Father, in whom
we truly “live, and move, and have our being.” </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Jesus believed this, Jesus lived this, and he calls us to to
join him in this invisible reality that pervades us. He calls us to put our
trust in Him and he promises to be with us, to transform us, and to continue
working in us until we are one with him. It is not a call to better yourself or
to fix yourself - it’s a call to entrust your life to the only One who can. </span></span></div>
Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-52402950825368396592013-12-06T11:52:00.000-05:002013-12-06T11:53:28.376-05:00The Age of (Lazy) Skepticism<span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none;"></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: arial;"><i>“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”</i></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: arial;">These are the first
words of Jesus in the gospel according to Mark and I find it very
interesting that the first command that Jesus gives is “repent” because
that literally means “to think again” or “to rethink”.
I say I find it interesting because it is not rare to find people who
view Christians as people who do the exact opposite – who don’t think
and refuse to think. And while I will not deny that there are Christians
who give support to this view, I will submit
that this problem is not limited to Christians but is fast becoming the
default condition in the world in which we live. You could call this the
age of skepticism, where people are encouraged to question but NOT to take the time to seriously think about the question. There is a skepticism that
encourages thought and discovery but that is not the kind of skepticism
that you will see flourishing today, where people are content to pass
through life without seriously considering the big questions of life. An
example might help - two men are both skeptical
about the existence of the state of Michigan. They both have one or two
good reasons for this skepticism but here is where they differ: one of
the men uses this skepticism to delve into the evidence, to search out
for the truth, to find answers to the hard
questions while the other uses his skepticism to disregard the question
altogether, to stop seriously thinking any more about the issue,
relying on that one reason to support his choice.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;">Here is the point,
regardless of whether or not you say you believe in Jesus Christ, have
you thought about it? I mean really thought about it? Have you read and
considered the words of Jesus himself? Have
you read and considered ANY of the writings of the many great thinkers
of the past – Christian and non-Christian? Have you used your skepticism
to search out the truth, to stimulate thinking? Or have you become
content living the rest of your life without seriously
investigating whether or not your beliefs are true? Whether or not your
beliefs correspond with reality? Jesus believed that his words, his
life, his worldview would hold up under serious thinking. He commands us
to think again about life. To think again about
serious questions related to our existence. To think again about a life
spent with him. Will you?</span></div>
</span>Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-39062562552070447872013-11-04T21:52:00.001-05:002013-11-04T21:52:19.854-05:00Isaiah, Chesterton, and IsaiahIf I had my two year old son's energy and youthful sense of wonder, I could probably run a marathon every day. I would never get tired, and it would never get old. The way he runs back and forth across the same path on the floor over and over and over; the way he can keep singing the same song without it ever getting old; the way he can keep asking for the same book every night; and his ability to continue to be entertained by the same episode of the same children's show over and over again--it reminds me of something G.K. Chesterton said.<br />
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Because children have abounding vitality, because they are in spirit
fierce and free, therefore they want things repeated and unchanged. They
always say, "Do it again"; and the grown-up person does it again until
he is nearly dead. For grown-up people are not strong enough to exult in
monotony. But perhaps God is strong enough to exult in monotony. It is
possible that God says every morning, "Do it again" to the sun; and
every evening, "Do it again" to the moon. It may not be automatic
necessity that makes all daisies alike; it may be that God makes every
daisy separately, but has never got tired of making them. It may be that
He has the eternal appetite of infancy; for we have sinned and grown
old, and our Father is younger than we.<br />
-G.K. Chesterton, <i>Orthodoxy<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1807543"></a>
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I don't know the details of how God creates and sustains creation, but I believe we do see a faint glimpse of his infinite power when we see the vitality of children. Even more astonishing is that we human beings have the least wisdom when our energy is at its peak. Yet God not only has infinite power, but infinite wisdom to go along with it.<br />
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<span class="block-indent"><span class="line">Have you not known? Have you not heard? </span><span class="line">The <span class="divine-name">Lord</span> is the everlasting God, </span><span class="ln-indent">the Creator of the ends of the earth. </span><span class="line">He does not faint or grow weary; </span><span class="ln-indent">his understanding is unsearchable. </span><span class="line">He gives power to the faint, </span><span class="ln-indent">and to him who has no might he increases strength. </span><span class="line">Even youths shall faint and be weary,</span><br /> <span class="ln-indent">and young men shall fall exhausted; </span><span class="line">but they who wait for the <span class="divine-name">Lord</span> shall renew their strength; </span><span class="ln-indent">they shall mount up with wings like eagles; </span><span class="line">they shall run and not be weary; </span><span class="ln-indent">they shall walk and not faint.</span></span><br />
-Isaiah 40:28-31</blockquote>
Awesome. Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-25087162833245679102013-08-08T19:33:00.000-04:002013-08-08T19:33:36.739-04:00Who is God?<span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 10pt;">
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heard a quote recently that had more truth in it then I initially
thought. It was similar to the following: A dog looks at his owner and
thinks, “This person feeds
me, and houses me, and protects me, and loves me… he must be god.” A cat
looks at his owner and thinks, “This person feeds me, and houses me,
and protects me, and loves me… I must be god.” </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">While
humorous, I was brought to think on the radically different lifestyles
that emerge out of the two mindsets presented here. The first of course
being a life of
gratitude, obedience, and joy with the second being a life of
entitlement, stubbornness, and bitterness. And while it may be
relatively easy to go through life without ever consciously thinking, “I
must be god” it is certainly much more difficult, if not impossible,
to go through life without subconsciously believing it. I would say it
is especially true in this service centered society in which we live
where people (or machines) do things for us all the time. But this kind
of society also allows us to see this subconscious
belief - where we will destroy phones, scream at ATM machines, and curse
out slow drivers because “We are god and are entitled to get what we
want!!!” </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">This
is why the first step to get out of this mindset is to realize and
fully believe that “we are not god.” Yes, we have a lot of things that
nearly fulfill our every
wish. Yes, we have people all around us who constantly serve us but the
only reason that we have any of this is because other people took pity
on us and helped us. It started when we were born into this world as a
helpless infant and it has continued to this
day. If other people did not take pity on us and help us nothing that we
have accomplished would have been possible. We just don’t often realize
it, as Dallas Willard explains, "People often do not want to accept that they can only live on the basis of pity from others, that the good that comes to them is rarely 'deserved.'" </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I
say this is the first step because I think coming to this realization
produces a question. And that is, “If I am not god, then who is?” or in
other words
“If I am not meant to live for myself, then who am I meant to live for?”
And while there have been many answers given to this question I agree
with what the Bible says in Deuteronomy 4:39, “Know therefore today, and
lay it to your heart, that the Lord is God
in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.” There is
one God and He is who we were all meant to live for. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The
Lord has given us everything that we have – He has given us the ability
to work, eat, sleep, laugh, and play. He is the ultimate provider and
the giver
of life. The question is how will we respond? Will we presume that this
life that has been given to us is our own, that we are god? Or will we
“ascribe to the Lord the glory due his name” and live a life of
gratitude, obedience, and joy unto Him? This is the
good life that God wants for us and the life that Christ calls us to
with the words, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”</span></span></div>
</span>Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-85387444261043345922013-06-10T19:26:00.000-04:002013-06-10T20:09:33.264-04:00"Those Christians and Their Morality..."<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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“[T]hink of us as a fleet of ships sailing in
formation. The voyage will be a success only, in the first place, if the ships
do not collide and get in one another’s way; and secondly, if each ship is
seaworthy and has her engines in good order. . . . But there is one thing we
have not yet taken into account. We have not asked where the fleet is
trying to get to…”</div>
<div class="yiv1350598607msonormal">
-C.S. Lewis</div>
</blockquote>
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<div class="yiv1350598607msonormal">
Modern people feel pretty strongly about
morality. But based on the above analogy, we aren’t thinking very carefully
about this subject (despite our feelings) if we haven’t answered at least three
questions: (1) How must I live to avoid hurting others? (2) How must I live to
avoid hurting myself? And (3) what am I made for? Most people begin and
end with the first question. We often say it is okay to “do whatever you
want as long as you’re not hurting anyone.” But as Lewis goes on to
explain, the second question is equally important. How can you expect the
ships to steer carefully to avoid colliding with one another if each ship is in
such bad shape that it can barely be steered at all? In other words, how
can I avoid harming others if I don’t have any control over myself? So
some people will admit that you shouldn’t do things that are bad for you.</div>
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<div class="yiv1350598607msonormal">
But is that enough? Is it okay to do
whatever you want unless you hurt yourself or someone else? Returning to
the ship analogy, we must first be able to explain why the ships are in the
water at all. Is there a destination? Is there a purpose? If
not, the first two questions have no ground to stand on. By neglecting to
think about question no. 3, we’ve left out something essential to our
ethics—the foundation! How can we say the ships shouldn’t collide with
each other if we don’t know why the ships are in the water to begin with?
Perhaps they’ve <i>decided</i> to destroy each other, like warships.
Perhaps they feel as if they were <i>made</i> to destroy each other. Or
worse—perhaps they feel that they were built to seek victory at all
costs. If you think I’m just exaggerating, consider the suicide bombers,
kamikaze pilots, or the 9/11 hijackers of our world. Could we condemn
their behavior?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Could we condemn the
cut-throat mentality of corporate America?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And how about people who set themselves on
fire for <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22681763" target="_blank">political reasons</a>? What could you say to such a
person? “Your life has no purpose. So do whatever you want… but not
that!”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/existentialistthemes/a/existence.htm">existentialist
philosophers</a> have been <a href="http://bible.org/illustration/god%25E2%2580%2599s-creating-hand">unable</a>
to provide any coherent answers.</div>
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<div class="yiv1350598607msonormal">
As a Christian, I believe that morality
must be grounded in the creator. There is room for social and personal
ethics, but they will only take us so far. As 1 Corinthians 8:6 says, all
things exist for God. He is our foundation. Without him, morality
is subjective and arbitrary, and whoever has the most power wins, right or
wrong. But with God as our foundation, we will begin to find real, coherent
answers to our moral problems.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Each one
of us will feel uncomfortable with this at some point.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But if we are seeking a source of truth that
transcends each individual, isn’t that exactly what we should expect?</div>
Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-9214116241153392482013-05-28T18:38:00.000-04:002013-05-29T10:25:35.626-04:00In His ImageI'm sure that all have had a moment in their life when they were dealing with feelings of inadequacy. As men, we constantly wonder, am I good enough? Do I have what it takes? We fear failure simply for the fact that it shows others that we couldn't do it, we weren't enough, we didn't have what it took. The same goes for our spiritual walk. Every time we hit a bump in the road or take a detour and fall into sin we end up feeling like we failed. Even Paul experienced this so much so that he went on to say, "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.... <span class="text Rom-7-18" id="en-NIV-28110">For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.... What a wretched man I am!"</span><span class="text Rom-7-20" id="en-NIV-28112"> [Rom 7:15-18,24]</span><br />
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How many times do we look in the mirror, seeing only the sin that seems to keep us down, and think of ourselves as wretched men? Some of you might say not enough and others might say all the time. While the first response might point to someone who has yet to acknowledge their sin and give it up to Christ, the latter would suggest someone stuck in a narrow view of themselves wherein they only see their sin and are forgetting that Jesus died to cleanse us of the sin in our lives. Scripture says, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." [Rom 3:23]<span class="text Rom-7-20" id="en-NIV-28112"> </span>The problem lies in that we live in a fleshly world when we were made for a spiritual one. Too many times I think we don't read Rom 7:18 slow enough to realize that it is <strong>through </strong>our sinful nature that good does not dwell in us. That doesn't mean good is never found within us.<br />
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On the contrary, upon the creation of man, God called us good. In Romans 6, Paul says that only those who forsake the flesh and walk in spirit will see God. While it's good to recognize this and understand that without the spirits' guidance, and certainly without Christ's blood, we would have no escape from sin, dealing with this problem is usually more difficult than simply acknowledging it. It is, however, a good starting point. In fact, it is the only starting point. Paul doesn't simply stop at pointing out the sinful nature but, instead he continues on , saying, "Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!" [Rom 7:25] Likewise, Romans 3 goes on to say we "are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Jesus Christ." [Rom 3:24]<br />
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I must clarify at this point that my purpose in writing this is not to give you some three step program on how to resist the flesh. Anyone who tries to box the walk of faith into a system is missing the point. Rather, my hope is that you will gain some perspective into who you are, or can be, through Christ by taking a look at what man was created to be. The enemy would love it if we simply got stuck at looking at how far we fall short of the life we were created for that we fail to ever actually take so much as a glimpse at that life. Many times we get so caught up in how much of a wretch we are and how much sin this flesh of ours has caused us to do that we neglect to remember one big important factor. We were made in His image! HIS! As in the God almighty of the universe. The creator of all things. The alpha and the omega. The great and wondrous hosts of hosts.<br />
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What are the implications of truly accepting this and holding on tightly to that fact? Consider a sculptor who sets out to create his masterpiece. Upon completing his work I would imagine he would take much pleasure in admiring it. Now say shortly after he makes it, someone else comes along and places a scratch on it. Would it no longer be his masterpiece? Would he still not love it? I would venture to say yes. After all, the sculpture is a reflection of the work of the artist and not the vandal. In the same way we are a reflection of our creator's work in us. We were not made to sin but rather to reflect God's grace to the rest of the world much like Moses did upon being in the presence of God. Therefore, I urge you to view yourselves as masterpieces of the one true God. While we are full of scratches from this fleshly world, God still saw His original design as good and us as worth redeeming. Thus, we have Christ, of whom we should hold on to, who is continually restoring us to our intended condition so that we may truly be the image of God for which we were created to be. Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05564712375160335738noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-82244345441675489262013-05-13T19:07:00.004-04:002013-05-13T19:07:57.354-04:00The Self Centered Life<div style="font-family: inherit;">
<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">In his book, <i>Surprised by Joy</i></span><span style="color: black; font-size: small;"><span dir="ltr"><i style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">, </i><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">C.S. Lewis points out the following:</span> </span></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-size: small;"><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 10pt;">There
is a difference between a life that is selfish and one that is self
centered: for in a selfish life my mind could be directed toward a
thousand things, not one of which is myself. The distinction is not
unimportant.
One of the happiest men and the most pleasing companions I have known
was intensely selfish. On the other hand I have known people capable of
real sacrifice whose lives were nevertheless a misery to themselves and
to others, because self-concern and self-pity
filled all their thoughts. Either condition will destroy the soul in the
end. But till the end, give me the man who takes the best of everything
(even at my expense) and then talks of other things, rather than the
man who serves me and talks of himself, and
whose very kindnesses are a continual reproach, a continual demand for
pity, gratitude, and admiration.</span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="color: black; font-size: small;"><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 10pt;">
<br />
This quote struck me because in my experience I have found that it is
terribly easy to fall into a self centered life that is not selfish at
all. For example, take a man who spends every minute of his life <i>doing</i> things for others. It would not appear
that such a man was living a self centered life. However, he would be if he was <i>thinking </i>of himself
the entire time he was doing those things. It is important to note that
this is NOT the kind of life that Jesus lived or that he wants us to
live. Yes,
he did live his life doing things for others. But no, his mind was not
fixed on himself, but on God the Father the entire time. It wasn't a
selfish life, AND it wasn't a self centered life. And THIS is the life
that he calls us to as well when he commands us
to, "Follow me". So I encourage you to reflect on your life. Who/What is
it that dominates your thoughts? How would you classify your life?
Selfish? Self centered? Or Christ-like?<br />
<br />
And I believe that the true question is not whether your life is self
centered or not because lets face it, to a certain extent we all live a
self centered life. The better question would be whether your life is
becoming a more self centered or less self centered
kind of life. Do you find that God is on your mind more than he was
before, or less? Do you find yourself more concerned with what God
thinks of your actions and less concerned with what other people think
or the opposite. Are you becoming more like Christ
or less like him? As Lewis pointed out the selfish and self centered
lives will inevitably end in ruin. However, Jesus himself demonstrated
that the Christ-like life will endure and flourish even beyond the
grave. </span></span></div>
Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-53153646622778863282013-04-11T11:07:00.000-04:002013-04-11T11:07:51.938-04:00The Stepford GodPeople approach the idea of having a relationship with Jesus in at least three different ways. One approach is to simply reject the idea—to reason that there is no god, or at least not a god we can know. The second approach is an improvement, but not by much. Under this view, there is a god, but not a god with a mind of his own. You don’t follow god. He follows you. The last approach is to take Jesus as he intends to be taken—as Lord and savior. To demonstrate these approaches, I’ve used an illustration that other writers and speakers have used, which is based on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives" target="_blank">Stepford Wives</a> films. In the 1975 film, the husbands kill their wives and replace them with emotionless robots. The robots look like the wives, but they exist only for their husbands’ personal pleasure. In the 2004 film, the wives aren’t dead, but they might as well be. Their husbands control their minds using microchips.<br />
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<b>1. The Stepford God: The Original</b><br />
God does not speak. We may have reasons to say that there is a god (e.g. the rational intelligibility of the universe), but not a god we can have a relationship with. If God exists, he is not concerned with human affairs. As far as we can tell, he has no interest in prayers, morality, changing people, suffering, death, or the afterlife. These are merely human concerns. If anything can be done about them, it must be done by us. We must build the solutions. And when all of our buildings collapse… well, let’s not worry about that. At least we tried. What we cannot build simply cannot exist. Anyone who says anything different probably isn't telling the truth. And if God says anything different, someone probably put a lie in his mouth. How do we know? Because “the true God” does not speak. How do we know? Well... we cannot be completely sure. After all, that would make us omniscient! But we think <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche/" target="_blank">the old philosopher</a> was probably right: “God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.” But don’t worry. We have replaced him with our own creations, and they will probably work... probably.<br />
<br />
<b>2. The Stepford God: The Remake</b><br />
God is <i>not</i> dead. God is alive and speaking. How do I know? Because he says whatever I want him to say. He does whatever I want him to do. And he gives me whatever I want. If things aren't going my way, I'm just not trusting him enough. But God wants to give me everything I want. He is always on my side, always agreeing with me and never contradicting me. He loves me just the way I am, and he would never try to change me. And he is very concerned with human affairs, especially mine. In fact, he is so concerned that he seems to have no independent will of his own. But he is not dead! I'm not sure why he would need to die anyway (then again, I am worth dying for). But I didn’t kill him... I only put a microchip in his brain.<br />
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<b>3. The True God</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
“[T]his is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. . . . For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world—to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.” (Jn 17:3, 18:37).</blockquote>
There is a God, and we can know him by believing in his son. Jesus Christ lived, died, and was raised from the dead. As a result, we can have a relationship with God. This means that God is not distant, and we have something much better than an abstraction. We have direct access to the God who created the universe—and he loves us! Yet we do not just call him our loving savior. We also call him our Lord. If he is anything less than that, then how could we possibly call him God?
Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-3110806335625455352013-03-18T18:01:00.000-04:002013-03-18T18:01:51.208-04:00Worldviews: Destiny<div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: small;">"Human life and consciousness requires, by its very nature, a projected future." -Dallas Willard</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><br />
The fourth question that we will look at in this series is that of
Destiny: What does our future hold? It
is essential to our existence that we hold onto a vision of what is to
come. You could say that we are obsessed with
the future, always moving and acting in
response to what we believe lies ahead. The future is what gives meaning
to our daily actions, its what enlivens and empowers us to continue and persist. It gives us hope. But
there is seemingly an end point for each one of us, a finish line for our life. We call this death. The question is, if death
is the absolute end for each one of us how can we possibly live with
the knowledge that there ultimately is no future
for us? We will look at three different ways that we can approach this:</span></div>
<span style="font-size: small;"><br style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" /></span>
<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">The first is that we can simply ignore it. We can disregard the fact
that we will ever die, we can remove it from our thinking. We can live
as if this life will go on for eternity, as if
death is so far away that it is infinitely minute
and thus worthless to even consider. But this won't change the fact that
death is coming, and there will most likely come a point where we must
consider it and despair is sure to follow. The following excerpt from
Jean-Paul Sartre's <i>The Wall</i> (can find
it here - <a href="https://ch1prd0106.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=-Yo7y8Q0xESf68QUDpQ-9diN8e2B988I9nn0gu3Yyxv1EkFk1rmLavcvcUx3_mrwdOxZ42c2b9s.&URL=http%3a%2f%2ffaculty.risd.edu%2fdkeefer%2fpod%2fwall.pdf" target="_blank">http://faculty.risd.edu/dkeefer/pod/wall.pdf</a>) illustrates this point
very well - this is from a man who is going to be executed the following day: </span></div>
<span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 10pt;"><div>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 16px;">
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">"At
that moment I felt that I had my whole life in front of me and I
thought, "It's a damned lie." It was worth nothing because it was
finished. I wondered how I'd been able to walk, to laugh with the girls:
I wouldn't have moved so much as my little finger if I had only
imagined I would die like this. My life was in front of me, shut,
closed, like a bag and yet everything inside of it was
unfinished. For an instant I tried to judge it. I wanted to tell myself,
this is a beautiful life. But I couldn't pass judgment on it; it was
only a sketch; I had spent my time counterfeiting eternity, I had
understood nothing. I missed nothing: there were
so many things I could have missed, the taste of manzanilla or the baths
I took in summer in a little creek near Cadiz; but death had
disenchanted everything."</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
However, there is another option if we don't want to simply ignore it. We
can vicariously continue through our fellow man. We can take "my
future" and move it to "our future". The future of man or the future of
this earth. Yes we will die but the human race
will remain and go on to multiply and flourish. We can take
heart that our race will not die out and we can do our part to ensure
that it continues. But even here, the despair will set in when we
realize that our race and our universe has an expiration
date - eventually everything will collapse and there will be nothing
left of any of us. <br />
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Is it inevitable then? Are we doomed to live in the dread and despair that death brings?</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span> </span></span></div>
<div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: small;"><span>Absolutely
not! There is third option that does not end in despair but in joy and
it comes when we place our trust in the only person to ever defeat
death, that is Jesus Christ who has "abolished
death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel." He
says that "Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and
everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die." Jesus Christ
ensures our future and by doing so he gives
meaning and hope to us right now. And when we die we will enter into the
"joy of our Lord" (Matt 25:21), our bodies will be transformed into
glorious ones (Phil 3:21), and we will rule with Him forever and ever
(Rev 2:26, 3:21). <br />
<br />
As such the follower of Christ is not afraid of death as others are (see <a href="https://ch1prd0106.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=-Yo7y8Q0xESf68QUDpQ-9diN8e2B988I9nn0gu3Yyxv1EkFk1rmLavcvcUx3_mrwdOxZ42c2b9s.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.dennyburk.com%2fchavezs-last-words-and-yours%2f" target="_blank">http://www.dennyburk.com/chavezs-last-words-and-yours/</a>)
but can experience death with confidence knowing that better things
await and can presently live a life full of love, joy, and hope that is
only found in the one and only eternal God. </span></span></div>
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</span>Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-84893846226251671382013-03-11T17:23:00.004-04:002013-03-11T17:25:04.051-04:00Worldviews, Morality: What is good?<div style="text-align: center;">
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In Plato's dialogue, <i>Euthyphro</i>, Socrates asks the title character whether that which is pious is loved by the gods because it is pious, or whether it is pious because it is loved by the gods. In other words, Socrates wishes to know if something is pious merely because the gods have ordained and determined it to be pious or is there actually a universal understanding of piety that the gods recognize and thus love.</div>
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I would say the same question could be asked of morality. Is something good, or evil, because God has stated that it is good, or was it good to begin with, and thus God recognizes and supports its goodness?</div>
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<b>Morality in a Post-Modern World</b></div>
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The prevailing belief in our post-modern culture supports the latter proposition: Good exists in and of itself, and if there is a god, that being must recognize and support the existence of that good. Defining good, however, is much more difficult. In fact, this worldview has often refused to define that which is good, and instead chosen to focus on decrying that which is evil. Evil, of course, would be anything that harms or injures another individual who did not deserve to have that harm occur. Evil would include murders, thefts, assaults, defrauding, and a host of actions which cause pain and hardship to those who are undeserving. Good, as an undefined opposite, is simply everything else; those actions that do not directly cause harm or injury to other individuals. Thus, in popular culture, good is often left undefined, and in our increasingly post-modern culture, is a decision of each individual's conscience.<br />
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<b>Religious Morality</b></div>
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In opposition, the vast majority of world religions would say that good does not exist in and of itself, but instead, by the decrees and determinations of God. That means that something that is good is only that which God has determined and decreed to be good; that which is evil is that which God has determined and decreed to be evil. In this worldview, there is a strict code of morality. There is no room for personal determinations or decisions on conscience. Instead, there is only a clearly defined code of moral law.<br />
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<b>The Biblical View of Morality</b></div>
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However, God's view of good is starkly different from both of these views. The Bible doesn't tell us that something is good because God determined it to be so or because it was good and God recognized it as so. Instead, the Bible simply tells us that God -<i>IS</i>- good. In other words, that which is good is that which is from God, serves God, and pleases God.<br />
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For example, when the rich young ruler addressed Christ as "good teacher," and asked Him how to inherit eternal life, Christ's first response was, "Why do you call me good? No one is good - except God alone." (Luke 18:19) In this passage, Christ did not deny his deity. Instead, he merely refuted the young man's statement. The young man believed that Christ was good because of his value and wisdom as a teacher. Essentially, he believed that Christ was good because He could discern the moral code that would grant eternal life. But Christ's initial response was simple: there is no good, except for God. It's fitting, then, that Christ answered the young man's question with the simple command to "Follow Me."<br />
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Therefore, to be good, something must be related to or in service of God. In Romans, Paul quotes the Psalmist as saying, "There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, there is no one who seeks God ... there is no one who does good, not even one." (Romans 3:10-12) Simply put, Paul recognizes that no one is good, and no one does good, because no one seeks after God. Goodness, then, is not something that can tangibly be pursued. It is not something that can be reached or obtained. Instead, goodness is the result of pursuing the will of the only One who is good, God. To be good, then, means to follow and seek after God. It means to obey His will, purposefully and devotedly.Kyle Sheltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09963931218441851845noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-47134079685988744152013-02-25T22:11:00.000-05:002013-02-25T22:11:29.208-05:00Worldviews: Does Life Have a Purpose?<blockquote class="tr_bq">
[A]ll things were created through him and for him. . . . [I]n him all things hold together. (Col. 1:16-17 ESV)</blockquote>
We were made to glorify God. Some skeptics say that there is no God and life is ultimately meaningless. But no healthy human being lives that way. So they say we must construct meaning for ourselves, claiming we can then be free to have more fun. As Albert Camus put it, maybe "the struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart." Here's the problem. If life is ultimately meaningless, everything you experience will be meaningless too.<br />
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You may still, in the lowest sense, have a “good time”; but just in so far as it becomes very good, just in so far as it ever threatens to push you on from cold sensuality into real warmth and enthusiasm and joy, so afar you will be forced to feel the hopeless disharmony between your own emotions and the universe in which you really live.<br />
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Continuing to perform a meaningless act does not make it meaningful. Life is absurd unless there really is an eternal, all-powerful God who gives meaning.<br />
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[W]hoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it.
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This verse reveals a paradoxical truth that is hard to surrender to. We love ourselves a lot! And freedom really is a good thing. But real freedom is not just freedom <i>from</i>. Genuine freedom is freedom <i>for</i> something. Consider the art we admire. No one sees <a href="http://www.vangoghgallery.com/catalog/Painting/509/Starry-Night-Over-the-Rhone.html" target="_blank"><i>Starry Night Over the Rhone</i></a> and says, “Too bad Van Gogh imposed his will on that poor canvas.” What makes that canvas so amazing is that it reflects the will of an amazing artist. Similarly, when you submit your life to God, you can experience genuine freedom and fulfillment. If I live to glorify myself, concerned only with my selfish impulses and
ambitions, I will shrink into despair and obscurity. But if I live to
glorify Jesus, his word guarantees that I will be “raised in glory.” (1
Cr. 15:43).Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-53102694964820272612013-02-19T19:04:00.001-05:002013-02-19T20:56:05.063-05:00Why bother with origin?<span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px;">An imperative part of any worldview is the question of origin: How did we get here? This question has been debated time and time again. Why, then, is it so important as Christians that we know and understand our worldview? </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px;">Consider Psalm 19:1: </span><br />
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"The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork." </blockquote>
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The psalmist here looks at all the glory and complexity of the world, and attributes it right to God. He cannot view the sky and the heavens without seeing they are a part of God's testimony of creation. The appreciation and respect for God is strengthened when the world is viewed as his "handiwork." We cannot view the world as something that occurred by chance, and God simply as an afterthought. The complexity of the world attests that it was designed. This is best put by this quote from Einstein:</div>
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“I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws, but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations.”</blockquote>
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From examining the most complex aspects of the sciences, it is clear that God's power is boundless and beyond what we humans can fully grasp. We can't comprehend everything. After making that realization, it's no longer a step of "blind faith" to believe the universe was created by God, but we then can see the complexity of the universe as God's handiwork.</div>
Matt Gorrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10526021761516241630noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-9245164911713246492013-02-10T15:48:00.001-05:002013-02-10T16:06:48.240-05:00Worldviews ApartEvery person has a worldview, a framework through which to interpret the world. When preaching the gospel, Christians should be prepared to present the Christian worldview to people who do not already understand or accept it. Over the next few months, we will discuss how the Christian worldview answers four very important questions:<br />
(1) Origins – where did we come from and why does it matter?<br />
(2) Morality – do good and evil exist, and if so, how do we know?<br />
(3) Meaning – does life have a purpose?<br />
(4) Destiny – what happens after I die?<br />
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Whether Christian or not, most people can provide some kind of answer to each question. But do the answers fit together coherently? Have we really considered the implications of our beliefs? Consider the question of morality. Some people say we have beliefs about morality, and they claim that these beliefs are nothing but beliefs. But then they insist that we can and <i>must</i> be good people. Similarly, some people say life is meaningless in the beginning and meaningless in the end. Yet they insist that we search for meaning during the present.<br />
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The myth of Sisyphus comes to mind. Are we like the condemned king, endlessly rolling a rock up a steep hill only to have it roll back to the bottom? Or is there something better?Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-6969702041822981032012-08-14T09:20:00.002-04:002012-08-14T09:20:36.758-04:00The Fallacy of "Love"<blockquote class="tr_bq">
“Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.” - Rick Warren<br />
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I'm not sure who this post is for. Is it for Christians who are struggling to balance the competing interests of loving those around them while holding fast to their biblical convictions about sin? Or is it for the multitude of non-Christians who refuse to understand how a person could 'love' them and yet vehemently oppose their way of life. I guess, in short, I hope both sides might find a bit of encouragement here.<br />
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When Jesus was asked what the greatest of all the commandments were, his response was simple and poignant, "Love God with everything you are, and then love your neighbors as much as you love yourself." (paraphrased from Matthew 22:37-39). Of course, the One who gave that command was also the greatest example of living such love out. No one in history, and no fictional character ever dreamed up, could match the outpour and depth of Christ's love. Every word, every action, every thought and desire was focused on first loving and glorifying the Father, and then loving and redeeming us. <br />
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But love, Christ's love, was not merely a gesture of goodwill and support. It was just not endless compassion, sympathy, acceptance and mercy. Instead, Christ's love was something much more powerful: it was the desire to see a fallen world redeemed to the Father, a desire to see individuals transformed from corrupted beings of darkness into vessels of the Father's glory. You see, Christ loved us with a fervent and unending passion, but He didn't love our lifestyle. He didn't love our vanity, our pride, our immorality, our wickedness. He didn't love our sin. He didn't love the life choices that prevented us from full fellowship with the Father. And so, He came to love us, and in that love, He showed goodwill, support, compassion, sympathy, acceptance and mercy, but He also rebuked, criticised, admonished and exhorted us. He embraced the sinner with open arms but also condemned the life that sinner lived. And ultimately, He died, not to save the lives of those who followed Him, but to give us a new life, one separate from the corruption and sin that plague us.<br />
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The gospels are rife with demonstrations of this love. In John 8, he tells the adulteress woman, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more." Jesus loved her, He accepted her, He forgave her, but He also told her that her lifestyle was wrong and that it must change. He didn't condemn her, but He -did- condemn her lifestyle. He didn't tell her that it was her life to live how she wanted, or that she could choose whatever lifestyle best suited her. Instead, He loved her, and in showing that love, told her to change her ways.<br />
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So, then, when Christ says to love your neighbors as yourself, that doesn't mean we sit idly by and watch the world languish in lifestyles that celebrate the destructive power of sin. Instead, it means that we too should burn with the passion to see our neighbors embrace the grace and mercy of the Father and become those incorruptible, sinless vessels of His glory. Not because we've reached that stage (God knows Christians, including myself, have sins enough of their own) but because we know that we're called to something greater. So when Christians preach against all sorts of immorality, its not because we hate you, or fear you, or want to condemn you, or want to judge you and villainize you to make ourselves feel superior. Instead, we do it because we love you. We do it because our hearts are broken to see the corruption that runs rampant through ourselves and our neighbors. We do it because we want to see the mercy, power and glory of God realized in you, like it has been so wonderfully realized in us. So, non-Christians, realize that we don't hate you, but we also can't support a lifestyle that God has clearly condemned. He wants something greater for you, and so do we.Kyle Sheltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09963931218441851845noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-76705253541315105332012-06-27T16:51:00.000-04:002012-06-27T16:55:28.912-04:00Has America Become Content With Superficial Christianity?I'm not a big fan of excessive complaining, and I even consider myself an optimist. But certain things about the expression of Christianity in America worry me, especially when I start to see them in myself:<br />
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Instead of trusting in the Lord, even with our money, we are
content with putting “In God We Trust” on our money.</div>
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Rather than honoring Christ the Lord as holy in our hearts,
we are content with honoring Him on our t-shirts and facebook profiles.</div>
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Jesus said to take up your cross and follow Him, but we are
content with taking crosses and putting them up on our walls, and following Christian
blogs, podcasts, and "tweets."</div>
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We were told to be diligent to make our calling and
election sure, but we are content with being diligent in electing politicians who are Christians for sure.</div>
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When we should be asking if the Lord’s laws are written on people’s
hearts and on their minds, we are content with having them written on courthouse
monuments and in our nation’s statutes.</div>
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Are we becoming content with superficial Christianity? </div>Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-73259842443102387922012-06-18T13:03:00.000-04:002012-06-18T13:03:54.238-04:00MinistryConvicted. That is the word that describes my experience whilst reading "Life Together" by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I will let his words make up the rest of this post.<br />
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"We must be ready to allow ourselves to be interrupted by God. God will constantly be crossing our paths and canceling our plans by sending us people with claims and petitions. We may pass them by, preoccupied with our more important tasks, as the priest passed by the man who had fallen among thieves, perhaps - reading the Bible(Luke 10). When we do that we pass by the visible sign of the Cross raised athwart our path to show us that, not our way, but God's way must be done.<br />
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It is a strange fact that Christians and ministers frequently consider their work so important and urgent that they will allow nothing to disturb them. They think they are doing God a service in this, but actually they are disdaining God's "crooked yet straight path" (Gottfried Arnold). They do not want a life that is crossed and balked. But it is part of the discipline of humility that we must not spare our hand where it can perform a service and that we do not assume that our schedule is our own to manage, but allow it to be arranged by God.<br />
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Only where hands are not too good for deeds of love and mercy in everyday helpfulness can the mouth joyfully and convincingly proclaim the message of God's love and mercy."Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-67290478452527075772012-05-01T09:15:00.002-04:002012-05-01T09:15:46.321-04:00Paul repeated the question: “Who has known the mind of the Lord?” And Jesus spoke in parables. So is doctrine just a bunch of trivia created by preachers and theologians—essentially theoretical—that might direct us toward God, but should not cause anyone to think he or she knows anything about who God really is?<div class="yiv142045125MsoNormal">
J.F.K. once said, “Don’t ever take a fence down until you know
the reason why it was put up.”<span> </span>This
could probably apply to doctrine, which means instruction or teaching.<span> </span>The bible discusses two types.<span> </span>One is man-made (<i>e.g., </i>Mar. 7:1-16), and the other comes from God (Tit. 2:10).<span>
</span>As Corey and Matt explained, the bible—God’s instruction—reflects who
God is.<span> </span>So those who genuinely desire to
know God must be open to his instruction (Joh. 14:15-17).<span> </span>The danger of man-made doctrine is that it causes
people to stray from God’s instruction (Mar. 7:1-16, Col. 2:8).<span> </span>Those who promote it aren’t interested in
building up the church or being faithful to the clear teaching of the bible—they’re
experts in things that cause speculation, disputes, and moral uncertainty (1
Tim 1:3-11).<span> </span>They often operate subtly.</div>
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In Genesis, for example, Satan could’ve openly told Eve, “Disobey
God!”<span> </span>Instead, he cleverly approached
her when she was alone, asking, “Did God <i>actually</i>
say . . . ?” (Gen. 3:1).<span> </span>He apparently convinced
Eve to eat the forbidden fruit by getting her to question the authoritativeness
of God’s instruction.<span> </span>By causing
confusion about what God has said, Satan causes confusion about who God is (<i>see </i>Rom. 1:18-32).<span> </span>But our “God is not a God of confusion.”<span> </span>(1 Cor. 14:33).<span> </span>He wants us to know Him (Joh. 17:2-3).<span> </span>This is why Paul prayed that we would “be
filled with the knowledge of [God’s] will in all spiritual wisdom and
understanding . . . and increasing in the knowledge of God.” (Col. 1:9-10).</div>
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Of course, we presently know only what God has revealed to
us at this time.<span> </span>But at some point, we
“shall know fully.” (1 Cor. 13:12).<span> </span>Meanwhile,
we can be confident that what we know now is substantial (<i>see </i>1 Joh. 5:20).<span> </span>Believers “have the mind of Christ” and can
actually comprehend “the thoughts of God.” (1 Cor. 2:9-16).<span> </span>And what we learn about God through the
Spirit is confirmed in the bible.<span> </span>So if
you reject or otherwise mishandle sound, biblical doctrine, you’ll be rejecting
the truth about who God really is—this is not trivial (<i>see </i>Tit. 1:10-16).</div>Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-68879753014569998752012-04-18T13:30:00.006-04:002012-04-18T13:30:46.842-04:00Is it easy to follow God?<br /><br /><br />Is it easy to follow God? I think that depends on how much God you're actually following. I have observed a peculiar behavior from some, where the Bible is taken to a sieve, and any part of it that would make someone uncomfortable would be sifted out. What remains is a politically correct, albeit watered-down, version of God. A version of God that will tell you whatever you want to hear and that lives for you. A version of God that is butterflies and rainbows. A version of God that is easy to follow. Why are these thoughts peculiar? Because they are far from the truth that God wants us to have. If you remove parts of the Bible you are removing God's intentions for the world and for you. In fact, you're missing out on something. <br /><br />The idea of being challenged by the Bible is not a new one. In fact, a man approached Jesus believing that he had it all together- he had kept all the commandments. Jesus then told the man something he didn't want to hear:<div>
<br />Jesus said to him, "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me." (Matthew 19:21 ESV)</div>
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<br />What did this young, rich man do when he heard the Truth of God, straight out of the mouth of Christ? He left in sorrow, because he had so many possessions. Like this man, it is easy for us to get out of scripture only what seems relevant to ourselves, and to dismiss the rest as irrelevant, mistranslated, or metaphorical. The man in the verse thought that knowing God was only about keeping the Commandments, but it was quickly pointed out to him that there was more to it than that. He found out that in order to know the real God, not one just invented for his own reality, he must dig deeper. A God that has been sifted and watered-down is not the God of reality, not the God who promises eternal life, treasure and everlasting joy, but a false, shallow god. To have the true God means to take God in full, down to the core. It is imperative that we embrace all of God through the Scriptures and not hold back.</div>
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<br />Can we really know God? More on this next post.<br /></div>Matt Gorrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10526021761516241630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-89923539144039427862012-04-02T20:30:00.002-04:002012-04-02T20:33:19.200-04:00The BibleThis is the start of a four part series. 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UI","sans-serif"">How much of the bible do I need to accept in order to become a Christian?</span></b></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif""> In order to become a Christian you need to accept a person, and that person is Jesus Christ. There is not a set of certain propositions that you have to intellectually accept before you can become a Christian. “Christian” means “little Christ,” and it was a term used to describe some of the early disciples of Christ. A disciple of Christ is someone who follows Him, trusts Him, and continuously learns from Him how to live his/her life. To become a disciple of Christ, you simply have to accept HIM into your life, to put HIM above everything else in your life.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>No matter how much information you intellectually accept as true about Christ, you do not become a disciple until you accept HIM into your life, which means that it is entirely possible to believe that every word of the bible is true and still not be a disciple of Christ. And keep in mind that “accepting” Him also does not mean accepting an idea of Him that someone has created that is not grounded in the truth of the bible.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif""> So where is the balance here? How do Christ and the bible fit together? The bible is entirely about Christ, from the beginning to the end. When you accept Christ into your life you get the entirety of the bible as well. The Christ that you have accepted is the same Christ that the bible extensively talks about. So how much of the bible do you “need” to accept in order to become a Christian? You “need” to accept Christ, and when you do you get the privilege of reading and accepting His words, the bible. Christ says himself that, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” If we accept Him then we will also listen to and accept what he has to say to us. </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;color:#001320"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span></span><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">But this poses a problem for many of us. What happens when we come across some of His words that we don’t like? What do we do when the bible says something that makes us feel uncomfortable? This will be addressed in the next post. </span></p>Corey Fronkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203813984708573000noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-12854078652488054902012-01-14T13:41:00.005-05:002012-01-14T15:04:30.590-05:00Pointless Fighting Over ReligionFor centuries, Jews, Babylonians, Romans, Muslims, and even Christians have fought for control over the location at which God told Abraham to offer his son (near Mt. Moriah, the present site of the Muslim Dome of the Rock). Originally the site of King Solomon’s temple, several other temples have been built on this land, destroyed, and rebuilt over time. People of various cultures have offered sacrifices and prayers to various gods at this spot. One might ask, "why couldn't they just get along and worship together? Don't they have anything in common?"<br /><br />Well, to some extent, there is common ground. The common ground is the ground itself and the stories it tells. Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe that God told Abraham to offer his son on a mountain in Moriah. There is disagreement over which son, as well as over the event's implications. Regardless, we can agree that God stopped Abraham just before he could take his son’s life on that mountain. As Abraham had already spoken, God provided the offering that day.<blockquote>And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, behind him was a ram, caught in a thicket by his horns. And Abraham went and took the ram and offered it up as a burnt offering instead of his son.(Gen 22:13)</blockquote>God spared Abraham's son and provided the offering in Abraham's day, but he did not spare his own son when Jesus died on the cross. Abraham's "test" on the mountain in Moriah foreshadowed the perfect offering of God’s only begotten son as the ultimate sacrifice for sins.<blockquote>Pilate went out again and said to them, "See, I am bringing him out to you that you may know that I find no guilt in him." So Jesus came out, wearing the crown of thorns and the purple robe. Pilate said to them, "Behold the man!" (Joh 19:4-5)</blockquote>Interestingly, although we don’t know the exact geographic location of Calvary (a.k.a. Golgotha), the place of Christ’s crucifixion, it is believed that Calvary is at least within half a mile of Mt. Moriah (Heb. 13:12), just outside of the walls of Jerusalem.<blockquote></blockquote>Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6930258551575730045.post-77309987483177453162011-12-30T11:52:00.004-05:002011-12-30T13:43:29.739-05:00The Uniqueness of ChristPeople have argued about religion and truth for thousands of years. But at times, when we've been honest with ourselves, we have been able to agree about some things, including the condition of man. No matter how much good we do, there is always a feeling on the inside that something is still missing - that because we are all human, we'll never be able to get to the point where we can say things are just as they should be in our hearts.<br /><br />We Christians believe that Jesus is the missing piece for every person-not more trying and more good deeds. That does not mean good works have no importance. However, doing good simply won't be enough to make things right on the inside. Even atheists have appreciated how Jesus gave us such an accurate description of our hearts.<br /><br />Consider the recent conversion of A.N. Wilson, English writer and newspaper columnist. He attended theological college, only to drop out at the end of his first year. Persuaded by the popular mode of intellectualism, he thought that no one could know the truth about who Jesus was, and that we couldn’t rely on the bible’s account of Jesus:<br /><blockquote>“[W]e can accept some church version of Jesus, or if it makes more appeal to us, we can accept a ‘heretic’ version; or we can make one up by ourselves.”<br /></blockquote>An atheist for thirty years, Wilson reconstructed his own view of Jesus by looking to the very scriptures he claimed we could not rely on, and then by speculating that Jesus was something other than what was presented in those scriptures (e.g. that Jesus was probably married).<br /><br />After thirty years of being a very vocal atheist, Wilson recently returned to the Christian faith, accepting the gospel and the biblical view of Jesus in what he calls a road to Damascus experience: <blockquote>“In the past, I have questioned [the gospel’s] veracity and suggested that it should not be taken literally. But the more I read the Easter story, the better it seems to fit and apply to the human condition. That, too, is why I now believe in it.”</blockquote><br />Similarly, W.E.H. Lecky, historian and atheist (never a convert to Christianity) said this about Jesus's character, as presented by Christianity:<br /><blockquote>“[It] has shown itself capable of acting on all ages, nations, temperaments, and conditions; has been not only the highest pattern of virtue but the strongest incentive to its practice; and has exercised so deep an influence that it may be truly said that the simple record of three short years of active life has done more to regenerate and to soften mankind than all the disquisitions of philosophers, and all the exhortations of moralists.”<br /><br />History of European morals: from Augustus to Charlemagne, Volume 2</blockquote>Also consider this interesting observation of Christian apologist, Ravi Zacharias:<br /><blockquote></blockquote><span id="dnn_ctr763_CB_ArticleViewXml_lblView" class="normal"><blockquote>"So profound was the transformation of British society that Bertrand Russell, one of the most prominent and influential atheists of the last century, could later write, 'It is doubtful that the method of Mahatma Gandhi would have succeeded except that he was appealing to the conscience of a Christianized people.'"</blockquote>Ravi Zacharias said he was amused to see this quote by Russell, an atheist, in the home of Ghandi, a pantheist.<br /><br />Our church will be covering the issue of truth starting on January 1st:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.icontact-archive.com/qBrsGr8VFWe6RhfqOBRshfOK0ckkYIsA?w=2">http://www.icontact-archive.com/qBrsGr8VFWe6RhfqOBRshfOK0ckkYIsA?w=2</a><br /></span>Thadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495115071862337660noreply@blogger.com0